We were told this was my wife's grandfather 'GEORGE SMITH from Beechworth'. The Nominal Roll has more than 200 George Smith entries.Which George Smith is this?

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Comment by Elizabeth Allen on June 1, 2016 at 17:35

Tom,   Might be worth getting some BDM certificates for his marriage which hopefully will have further details about his parents names

I notice on several other boards you had posted a possible George Benjamin SMYTH - did that one not pan out?

His father was James according to his army records and his mother was Emma

 

Do you know anything more about this George SMITH ?   Who did he marry ?

 

Elizabeth

Comment by Elizabeth Allen on June 1, 2016 at 18:43

Tom,  I checked the records for the George Benjamin SMYTH and he was in the 4th Light Horse Regiment

The uniform in the above photo doesn't resembler the Light Horse uniform in WW1 as they wore slouch hats so I think you can eliminate this George Benjamin SMYTH

 

Elizabeth

Comment by Tom Cook on June 2, 2016 at 13:22

Elizabeth:

We have written off George Benjamin Smyth since receiving his photo form the Mitta Heritage Society on Sunday. It is quite different from 'our George'. Apart from the photo and that he was supposed to be from Beechworth, all we know about our George is that he survived the war. We have nothing on a marriage or death or army unit number. And that's after some 20 years of searching.

In 1914 he had a relationship with my wife's grandmother Sybil Cogger and my wife's mother was born in Dec 1914.  Many thanks for your interest.

Tom Cook

Melbourne

Comment by Elizabeth Allen on June 2, 2016 at 14:00

Tom,  There are several possibles in the Victorian births in Beechworth but George is not the first christian name - he may have come from Beechworth and not actually been born there so I understand why you are having so much difficult

At least you have a photo of him - I hope one day you will find what you are looking for

Elizabeth

Comment by Debra on June 3, 2016 at 15:00

Just some logistics - the child was conceived around April 1914 so the father was not enlisted then.  Sybil married someone else in June 1914 and there must have been some ongoing contact with the father of the child for them to have a photo which would have been taken in August 1914 at the very earliest.

What information do you have that George SMITH survived the war?  Do you think that the "of Beechworth" referred to him later on?  There was one George SMITH living in Beechworth in the 1930s who married Elsie May NORMAN in December 1914 and died at Beechworth in 1948.  Unfortunately I can't see an enlistment for him.

Comment by Tom Cook on June 3, 2016 at 17:51

Elizabeth:

Your logic is spot on. Sybil did marry in June 1914, a Charlie Govey. After the war George kept in touch with Sybil's younger sister, Dulcie Cogger, born 1905, to learn how his daughter Marjorie Evelyn Govey was going. In fact he occasionally took Dulcie to the pictures. We don't know where, but in the 1928 Electoral Roll 23 yo Dulcie was at 234 Abbotsford St, North Melbourne. She married in 1934.

We knew about the George Smith in Beechworth in the 1930's, husband of Elsie May Norman - married Dec 9, 1914. Some 20 years ago we made contact with a Beechwoth descendant of his who said his grandfather had not served in WWI. He showed us a photo of that George which was quite different from our photo.

After Marjorie died in 1976 Dulcie and Marjorie's other daughter were sorting through some of Marjorie's photos  and when they came across our photo Dulcie said it was Marjorie's father, adding "His name was George Smith and he was from Beechworth".

Since we don't know what unit George was in we don't know when he enlisted, so we can't guess when the photo was taken.

Now you know everything we know.

Thanks again for your interest.

Tom and Kay Cook 

Comment by Tom Cook on June 3, 2016 at 18:48

We addressed that last comment about George Smith to Elizabeth. Sorry. It should have been Debra.

Tom and Kay Cook

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