My father was awarded the War Medal 1939-1945 'Mentioned in Despatches' during service in WW11. Can  anyone advise if it's possible to find out any of the details leading to this recommendation. He was a Corporal in RAAF, serving in Signal/Wireless Units in the PNG area 1943-1946.  I would appreciate any help. Many Thanks

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Comment by Elizabeth Allen on October 11, 2015 at 20:46

Rosalie,  You would need to get a copy of his war record first which should have details of why he was mentioned in dispatches  - The 1939-1945 Medal is separate - The Mentioned in Despatches if some sort of honour for something he had done (not a medal)

You can check to see if his record is online on this site www.naa.gov.au    under the Record Search section and if not you can request a copy (there is a small fee involved)

You could also check the Australian War Memorial site - www.awm.gov.au  to see if he is mentioned

If you can't find it you could list his name and I can have a look for you

Elizabeth

 

 

 

 

 

Elizabeth

Comment by Rosalie Thomas on October 12, 2015 at 11:59

Hi Elizabeth, thank you for replying to my query.

I have his service record but there is nothing mentioned in it. Was at the AWM last weekend and they could find nothing either, but they did not have access to the Honors Awards screen on their system at the time. I would really appreciate any help you can give as I keep running into 'dead ends'  and he was very tight lipped about his service. I know he reported to the US Air Force at some time.

Name;  John Traves KAY       Service Number; 72161

Thank you again for your help and hopefully I will gain a better understanding of his service.

Regards Rosalie

Comment by Elizabeth Allen on October 12, 2015 at 14:22

Rosalie,  I have checked the AWM Honours & Awards page online and he is not mentioned

You can check it on the following link

https://www.awm.gov.au/people/roll-search/all/?preferred_name=&...

I suspect that his "Mention in dispatches" honour may have been connected to the US Air Force instead and that is why it is not mentioned on his records

 

We recently got my husbands Uncles Air Force records from WW2 and he got a very high honour from the Polish Government but this fact is not mentioned on his war record and the AWM had no idea he had received it either as he got it  posthumously 35 years after the war had ended!!!

We have since given the Australian War Memorial the information to include on his record

You could try contacting the American Air Force but sorry I don't have a contact for them (try a google search)

My Father was also in the Air Force in WW2 and was also in PNG

Wishing you luck with your search

Elizabeth

Comment by Elizabeth Allen on October 12, 2015 at 14:28

Rosalie,  I had a quick look at his record on NAA - what about the contents of the sealed file on page 2 -                 I  presume it contains classified information?  Do you think this file might contain info about his Honour?

 

Elizabeth

Comment by Rosalie Thomas on October 15, 2015 at 18:49

Elizabeth, hi. Talk about staring me in the face! presumed it contained his service record. Wow, I'm still going thru a range of emotions. What is my best course of action; I will google U S Air Force as suggested and see what I get. Is it likely NAA will give me access to the contents of the envelope. As his file is open, would it still need to be examined by them? I really appreciate your help, regards Roaslie

Comment by Elizabeth Allen on October 15, 2015 at 21:30

Rosalie,  It appears that this file is still sealed for some reason (maybe still has classified information?)

You could contact the Australian War Memorial for advice as they are very helpful - I have never needed to access these sorts of closed files so not sure what would be the best way to go about it

Maybe another member of this forum will be able to assist

 

Elizabeth

Comment by Rosalie Thomas on October 17, 2015 at 14:02

Hi Elizabeth, thank you so much for steering me in the right direction. Will contact AWM again.

Regards Rosalie

Comment by Adam Sutch on January 6, 2016 at 5:45

Rosalie

Your query may well be long answered, but I thought that I would chip in. I can find nothing in the UK National Archive through an online search. Similarly the London Gazette, which records some Decorations, Honours and Gallantry Awards, turns up nothing on your Father. However, given what you say about his location, trade and the fact that he was reporting to Americans at one point, I think you should have a look at the Coastwatchers and similar Intelligence gathering outfits around PNG.

Whilst Wikipedia is often a collection of fantasists imaginings and self-publicity, the following link is a good place to start. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coastwatchers , with some links you can follow. I have not done it, but a search through the Australian records with Coastwatching/Intelligence/Wireless in mind may be productive.

This is not my field, I am a Bomber Command man, but I would bet 2/-6 (remember proper money?) that the sealed document in your Dad's file has something to do with Intelligence-related activity.

Good Luck.

Adam

Comment by Rosalie Thomas on January 14, 2016 at 9:03

Good morning Adam,

Thank you very much for your suggestions, also for your time searching the UK data records, I really appreciate your help. I'm new to this type of research and find some things daunting!

Yes, remember 'proper' money well, but other changes to society have reaped worse rewards!

As expected, I have been denied access to said envelope, so will now look further afield for more info.

Thank you once again for your kind help Adam.

Comment by Jacinthe on July 13, 2017 at 20:37

You would need to get a copy of his war record first which should have details of why he was mentioned in dispatches  - The 1939-1945 Medal is separate - The Mentioned in Despatches if some sort of honour for something he had done

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