John Gould - 11th Battalion - 9th reinforcements. Private 2864. - photo/immigration

Hello,

I am asking for any information of the above.

John immigrated somewhere between 1911 - 1914.
Born 1889 - Longnor Staffordshire England.
Kia 07/10/1917

I am looking for any information. Or a photograph of the 9th reinforcements, as I have no photographs of him.

Our family has a rich history with Australia, namely Nat Gould. An author of note. If anything, perhaps a mention in a letter from the front, would be appreciated.

Many thanks

Phil Gould.

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Comment by lou on September 3, 2014 at 14:52

This is a link to Johns service records, which you can view/download for free

http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsRep...,


Here is a link to his final resting place

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/923804/GOULD,%20JOHN

if you are unable access his records via that link, go to http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScre... and type in john should and 2864 and it should appear as a result.

Comment by Philip Gould on September 3, 2014 at 17:33
Dear Lou,
Thank you for your reply.
I think you have the wrong John in regards to immigration. In 1911 censor UK. He was an assistant drapier, aged 22. Next positive record is in Australia when he joined up, firstly with the 10th Light Horse in 1914 (medically discharged.) then again 1915 when he enlisted with the 11th AIF. KIA 07/10/1917.
He must of emigrated between 1911 and 1914, aged 22 / 23. His Farther was Richard Goodwin Gould.
What I am looking for is a picture of the 9th Reinforcements at Blackboy Hill camp. Or any positive record of him arriving by ship or any immigration papers.
Kind regards
Phil
Comment by Elizabeth Allen on September 3, 2014 at 17:39

Phil,  Hae you seen these two sites which mention John GOULD ?

you could also contact the Australian War Memorial  www.awm.gov.au
as they may be able to assist with your query
Elizabeth
Comment by Elizabeth Allen on September 3, 2014 at 17:43
Comment by Philip Gould on September 3, 2014 at 18:13
Hello Elizabeth,
Thank you for your help.
The "Nat Gould" site is one that I am helping with. It is my family tree. It's been put together by persons who are related to Nat Gould the Author.

John Gould was my Great Great Uncle. But there is the mystery of when and why he emigrated to Australia. I have found a record of a "J.Gould" landing at Fremantle October 1911. But I was hoping for some formal immigration papers. We have no positive photograph of John, and that what I would like most of all.
I have read 11th Battalion War Diary for 07/10/1917. And it records the death of Major Steele, Lt. Cooke and other rank. I presume this was John.
I was hoping that John had friends, and perhaps mentioned in someone else letter, or named in a group picture.
I have distant relatives in Australia, this part of the family moved around 1860. By their own choice.
I am grateful for any help. I am now that stage where public records have been exhausted and I need the chance that someone has a nugget of information in their own family history.
Kind regards,
Phil Gould.
Comment by Elizabeth Allen on September 3, 2014 at 18:20

Phil,  In my last post the first link has a photo of the regiment marching out of Blackboy Hill - you can enlarge it as well if needed

I hope you have some luck locating a photo of him - there is none in his onlne war record

 

Elizabeth

 

 

Comment by Elizabeth Allen on September 3, 2014 at 18:30

Philip,  Do you think this is the correct one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11th_Battalion_(Australia)

Elizabeth

Comment by Philip Gould on September 3, 2014 at 19:03
Dear Elizabeth,
Many thanks.
The newspaper link you provided was most useful. It confirms what I expected, especially when John has no known grave. John trained as a signaller and batman. Most for Major Steele. The article mention a shell hitting near to his command post, and nothing was left of him except his tunic. One other rank killed as well. Being John was killed on the 7/10/1917 and there is only one account of "other rank" killed on 07/10/1917. I have to presume it was John.
The photograph of troops marching out is likely to be the originals. I am looking for a group picture of the 9 th reinforcements, or signal training June 1915. There maybe an outside chance of a picture of him in the 10th Light Horse, but have not come across any from this unit.
Regards,
Phil
Comment by Elizabeth Allen on September 3, 2014 at 21:50

Phil,  It appears that John GOULD is listed on a memorial -not sure if you already have this

http://www.awm.gov.au/people/rolls/R1632561/

If you contact the Australian War Memorial site they might be able to provide you with further details about his batttalion or possibly more photos = they also have photos online

 

Elizabeth

Comment by sarfarnaa on October 7, 2014 at 17:40

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