Hi 

I'm rather new to family History research.  My father Andrew Gordon Thompson DOB: 26/01/1934 at Lidcombe NSW passed away on 16/08/2008 at Dubbo NSW.  My mother Ellen Lenore Thompson (Nee Paul) DOB 19/09/1937 at Southport QLD has dementia & I am one of her 5 daughters and her EPOA.  During COVID I started going through all mum & dads photo albums and discovered that they hadn't made any notes on most of the photos at all and we have now missed the boat on getting mum's assistance in doing this.  It was from there that I started to get interested in their service history in the WRAAF & RAAF which I have now obtained their service records and have uncovered some not so nice things like a trail of bad debts and bankruptcies etc  I have investigated my mothers family history which was rather easy and I obtained BD&M certificates easily at great expense.  My fathers family history is not as easy, its very messy ... I have this week discovered that Dad's mother Annie Eliza Thompson (Nee Yendall) passed away quite tragically at the age of 35yrs.  She had attempted to abort her 3rd child in-utero and died in the bathtub doing that on 19/3/1939 at Kelvin Grove Brisbane QLD.  There were many newspaper articles to that effect which I easily located.  I am now looking for perhaps the coroners report of her death which was concluded on the 19/05/1939.  I have finally located Annie's burial place an unmarked grave in Toowong Cemetery Brisbane.  Her family were displeased with her it seems as she was attempting to leave her husband when she discovered she was carrying another of his children and was unable to cope financially with the two she already had my father aged 5 and his brother Frank Stewart aged 3yrs.   I would really like to know more about her and I have noone to really ask.  I located some of her parents details and their burial sites at Waverley Cemetery Sydney - John George Yendall YOB: 1884 DOD:19/06/1958 & Mary Jane Yendall (Nee McGrath) YOB: 1885 DOD: 01/12/1948 ... I have not been able to locate when they immigrated to Australia from Middlesborough Yorkshire England which is Annies place of birth sometime in 1903.  I don't know for sure how many siblings Annie had maybe two - John George Yendall DOB ? YOD: 1966 and a sister Eva Lavinia Mackintosh (Nee Yendall) DOB: ? YOD: 1980.  Today I was attempting to locate Annie & her families immigration records to Australia from the UK ... date & ship etc.  Annies death certificate states that she lived in NSW for 10 years then QLD for 6 years following her marriage in March 1933 to Francis/Frank Stewart Thompson in Randwick NSW.   I stumbled upon a passenger manifest for the Oronsay which docked in Sydney or Brisbane on 27/1/1940 and it lists my father as Master A Yendall Instead of Thompson & his brother Frank as Yendall also along with their grandparents John & Mary Yendall.  I have not been able to locate when they left Australia for this trip following the death of their mother.  Are outgoing passenger manifests avail somewhere also?   Basically I guess I am hoping for some help to locate more information on the families immigration to Australia, some DOB for the family, some pictures if at all possible, and Annies coroners report or more specific police reports of her death.  I spent hundreds of $$$ on the BDM certs for my mothers family but because of the diversity of this family I was hoping not to spend so much money and wondered if there were less expensive avenues to pursue this family history information first.  Thank you so much for reading my ramblings and I appreciate any assistance offered.

Kind Regards

Michelle

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Comment by Sylvia on June 12, 2021 at 3:06

There is a quite a bit to find for this family. Here is a rough outline.Some stuff you’ll be familiar with, some other stuff might be new. (FYI mistakes are easy to make, so you'll need to check the data in this outline)
NB I’ve only given links to free web sites (You’ll need to sign up to Family Search if you haven't done so already).


John George YENDALL b 30 Jun 1883 Gateshead, Durham,
d 19 Jun 1958 NSW, bur Waverley Cemetery, NSW;
occ: Fruiterer and Confectioner (1911), Platelayer (1923), Foreman Platelayer (Retired) (1939), painter (1947)
Son of Henry YENDALL and Ann METCALFE

X reg Q#1 1901 district: Middlesbrough, Yorkshire

Mary Jane McGRATH b 31 Jan 1885 Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, d 29 Nov 1948 NSW
Daughter of Henry McGRATH and Eliza COOK

At least 4 Children:
Harry Cook YENDALL b 12 Mar 1901 Middlesbrough, Yorkshire (birth reg Q#2 1901 distr Middlesbrough);
d 24 Aug 1946 General Hospital Middlesborough;
(probate idx: https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar/GetImgSrc?filePath=%2...)
occ: Electrician Power Sta & Boiler H Chemicals (1939);
     X to Martha Kathleen b 24 Aug 1900
     Residence 1939 Register: Billingham, Durham
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Annie Eliza YENDALL 1903 Middlesbrough, Yorkshire (birth reg Q#2 1903 distr Middlesbrough)
     X 22 Mar 1933 Randwick, NSW to Frank S THOMPSON
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Eva Lavinia YENDALL b abt 1906 Middlesbrough, Yorkshire (birth reg Q#1 1906 distr Middlesbrough);
d 14 Jul 1980, crem 17 Jul 1980 Rookwood Crematorium
     X1926 Auburn NSW to Ronald F MacKINTOSH
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John George YENDALL b abt 1916 (birth reg Q#1 1916 distr Middlesbrough);
d 9 Dec 1966, crem 10 Dec 1966 Northern Suburbs Crematorium;
occ: Loco Fitter (1938)
     X 1939 Randwick NSW to Lawrence Alice WALKER


Some Events:
Residence 31 Mar 1901 (Census) - Mary and baby are staying with her mum: 41 Dean St, Middlesbrough, Yorkshire - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSSV-FLM
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Residence 2 April 1911 (Census): 32. Lower Gosford Street, Middlesbrough, Yorkshire,Yorkshire North riding - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7P5-B9M
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(First?) Immigration: Departure 26 Jan 1923, London. Arrival 12 March 1923 Sydney, Ship=Omar - https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/AutoSearch.asp?O=ID&Num...
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Mary and son John arrive in London on 8 Feb 1924 and leave again on 4 Mar 1924 (ship was Largs Bay both ways). Arrival Sydney:  https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/AutoSearch.asp?O=ID&Num...
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On 19 Aug 1938 John, Mary and son John arrive in London (ship: Strathnaver). On 30 Dec 1938 John and Mary leave via Southampton and arrive in New York on 6 Jan 1939 (Transit to Australia): https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G5NQ-G4V?i=456  (John #16, Mary #17, see also next page).
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On 27 Jul 1939 John and Mary arrive in London again (ship Oronsay). With them are 2 probable grandsons(?) AG Yendall b abt 1933/4 and F.F. Yendall b abt 1935/6 (I assume that these are Annie’s boys?)
They return in 1940 on the Oronsay. Arrival Fremantle 27 Jan 1940 - https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/AutoSearch.asp?O=ID&Num... ; Arrival Sydney 5 Feb 1940- https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/AutoSearch.asp?O=ID&Num...
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Residence 29 Sep 1939 (UK Register): (John & Mary and 2 hidden rows) 81 Fordward Ave, Blackpool, Lancashire

etc , etc



Henry YENDALL (b abt 1851 Exeter, Devonshire) and Ann METCALFE (b abt 1857 Upleatham Yorkshire) registered their marriage in the third quarter of 1882 in the district Guisborough, North Riding of Yorkshire
They had at least 5 children:
John George b 30 Jun 1883 Gateshead, Durham (birth reg Q#3 1883 distr Gateshead, Durham)
Martha Annie (birth reg Q#2 1885 distr Guisborough, North Riding of Yorkshire)
Thomas (birth reg Q#1 1887 distr Guisborough, North Riding of Yorkshire)
Robert Edward (birth reg Q#4 1887 distr Guisborough, North Riding of Yorkshire)
Rosie May (birth reg Q#3 1889 distr Guisborough, North Riding of Yorkshire)
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Residence 5 April 1891 (Census): Dunsdale Farm, Upleatham, Upleatham, Yorkshire https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7RRL-66Z 
Residence 31 Mar 1901 (Census): 12 Beacham St, North Eston, Eston, Yorkshire - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSSK-9NP



Henry McGRATH (b abt 1846 Ireland) and Eliza COOK (b abt 1850 Halifax, Yorkshire) seem to have had (at least) 2 children. NB I haven’t been able to find a marriage.
John Henry McGRATH (birth reg Q#4 1880 distr Middlesbrough, Yorkshire). I suspect that his death might have been registered in Q#3 1881.
Mary Jane McGRATH b 31 Jan 1885 Middlesbrough, Yorkshire (birth reg Q#1 1885 distr Middlesbrough, Yorkshire)
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Eliza McGRATH married a John MacFARLANE (b abt 1830 Scotland) in Q#4 1887 (distr Middlesbrough, Yorkshire). They had (at least) 2 daughters:
Hannah Cook MacFARLANE (birth reg Q#3 1888 distr Middlesbrough, Yorkshire)
Grace Eliza MacFARLANE (birth reg Q#4 1890 distr Middlesbrough, Yorkshire)
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Residence 3 Apr 1881 (Census): 22 The Rifle House, Adam St, Middlesbro, Yorkshire - North Riding -  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27B-KKVK
Residence 5 Apr 1891 (Census): 41 Lower Dean St, Linthorpe, Middlesbrough - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7R4G-ST2 


rgds, Sylvia

Comment by Michelle Morris on June 12, 2021 at 12:26

Thank you so much Sylvia for all your research.  So much new information there and lots of links. I have signed up to Familysearch and my aim over the Queens Birthday long weekend here will be to uncover a pic of Annie or her family.  Maybe a school photo - she was a nurse I believe as mentioned in some of the newpaper articles on her death so given that she was around 19 when she migrated to Aust she may have trained in Sydney so I might find something.  Thank you so much for bothering to help me.  I am truly very grateful.

Kind Regards

Michelle

Comment by Sylvia on June 12, 2021 at 13:51

Rge Annie’s inquest:

She is mentioned in the  Registers of Coroners' Inquests [Justice Department] - Dates: 17/02/1938 - 05/10/1939
(FYI The registers record summary details relating to each inquest including inquest number, name of deceased, date of death, whether it is an inquest (INQ) or 'no inquest' (IDU - Inquest Decided Unnecessary), Coroner (place), cause of death and circumstances, and action.)
Pdf link: https://www.archivessearch.qld.gov.au/api/download_file/DR57585
Go to page 281 of the pdf


I’m not 100% sure where to go to from there, but I wonder whether the following (NOT digitised/online) item might contain the report (Annie’s  inquest number s #327 would fall between the control numbers 301-350): https://www.archivessearch.qld.gov.au/items/ITM349657
It might be worth contacting the Queensland archives.

Comment by Sylvia on June 12, 2021 at 14:06

FYI If you reside in Australia, visit your local library if you you want free access to the pay site Ancestry. You'll be interested in the UK passenger lists (in- and outward).

Comment by Michelle Morris on June 13, 2021 at 23:49

Thank you very much Sylvia I'm so appreciative of your assistance.  I've had my grandkids for a couple of days so haven't had much time to do any research.  I have been investigating all the links you pasted for me.  Think I messed up with the second Inquest link you pasted regarding Inquest number 327 - I got a tidge  excited and paid for a file from NAA which I received the emailed receipt for the payment but cant locate the ordered file or the order.  Maybe because its not digitised I have to wait for the file to be imaged however I expected to then receive an email of the Order advising me of the anticipated wait time for the file like on other occasions.  But I may have messed the order up, I might have to call NAA Tuesday.  I haven't been able to locate a pic of Annie or her family either do you have any suggestions as to a good starting point please Sylvia.  I have been scouring the  Middlesborough School facebook sites and really school photos back then just don't seem to have student names sadly.  Your thoughts would be much appreciated.  Kind Regards Michelle

Comment by Sylvia on June 14, 2021 at 19:57

NAA? I do hope that that is typo and that you will be contacting the Queensland State Archives regarding Annie's inquest? If you haven't found their contact details yet, they seem to be mentioned on the following page: https://www.qld.gov.au/recreation/arts/heritage/archives/starting

FYI I have to repeat that I have given you the link to the item that should logically contain Annie's inquest, but I can't be totally sure.

Reg photo's ... family members would be my best guess. maybe there are some descendants of Annie's siblings who might have something.

Comment by Michelle Morris on June 14, 2021 at 20:41

Yes that was a typo.  It definitely is QLD State Archives Sylvia.  
Sorry &  thank you very much Sylvia. 

Comment by Michelle Morris on June 15, 2021 at 10:04

Sylvia.  I spoke with QLD Archives this morning and do they have my request and the details for Annie’s inquest and say I should have the file in a week or so.  Thank you again.  

Comment by Sylvia on June 15, 2021 at 15:11

That sounds very promising and I’m glad that you've let me know that I was on the right path. I’d only saved the bookmark for the coroner registers a few months ago when I was trying to understand the workings of the online Queensland state archive. Until now I hadn’t done anything with them yet, so it was a bit of beginner’s luck here.

You should have answers to most of your questions now e.g. Annie’s siblings, immigration, inquest. I haven’t got a real answer reg Annie’s occupation as a nurse, but I will give you my 2 cents worth on that:

Timeline:
March 1923 - When the family arrives in Australia in , Annie is a “domestic”.
This could be her in Nov 1928 as “Nurse Yendall of the Parramatta mental hospital” : https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/107099291?searchTerm=yen...
1930 Electoral roll: “ Yendall, Annie, Mental Hospital Parramatta, nurse”
FYI I’m wondering who this was in the 1930 roll: “Yondall, Annie, 2 Roslyn road. Companion” (Darlinghurst, East Sydney).

The NSW archives have a nurses guide: https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/gu.... Some of the links on this page will (eventually) take you to a nurses index that starts in 1926 https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/gu.... Unfortunately Annie does not seem to be listed (why not?), so that is a dead end.

In 1983 the name of the Parramatta mental hospital seems to have been changed to Cumberland Hospital (https://researchdata.edu.au/parramatta-lunatic-asylum-hospital-1983... ). You could give them a cheeky call. They might have some archives tucked away or otherwise they might be able to tell you where to find historical training and/or staff records.

Comment by Sylvia on June 15, 2021 at 21:05

reg photos

I'm not sure whether you've had contact with any of the rellies in Australia, but I had a bit of play with the UK branch and I believe that the youngest son of Henry Cook Yendall might still be alive (i.e. your father's cousin).

I tend not to publicly expose the details of living people. If you are interested in his details, you'll need to send me a friend request before we can message each other privately.

cheers, Sylvia

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