Looking for full naturalization cert. for gr. grandfather Jorgen Peter Olsen around 1880. Born in Denmark Falster, born 1864 married in 1890 in Warragul Vict.   Want to see if I can find out ship he came on.  

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Comment by Elizabeth Allen on September 9, 2020 at 16:02

Shirley,  I found the following info doing a google search - try searching the NAA record search using the alternative christian names mentioned

http://yarradandenongsnon-britishpioneers.blogspot.com/2015/07/o-na...

Elizabeth

Comment by Elizabeth Allen on September 9, 2020 at 16:10

Shirley,  this might be his naturalization as the name/age fits but I am not sure

There are quite a lot of John OLSENS naturalization listed on the NAA under Name Search - Immigration & Naturalization Records

Hope this link won't time out

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage...

if this is not him there are plenty more to explore via Record Search

Elizabeth

Comment by Sylvia on September 10, 2020 at 8:05

Unfortunately you’d kept the details regarding this guy to a minimum. Not a good idea when there are multiple persons with the same kind of names. So first I had to spend time on determining the right guy…

It turns out that around 1900, farmer Jorgen/George/John Peter Olsen was living with his wife Florence in Jindivick.  According to a 1904 directory Jindivick was the old name for Tarago.

With these additional details I am fairly confident that "John Peter OLSEN" received his naturalization certificate on 31 Aug 1904 (age=40, no of cert=1424, no of papers = 5889). However, the NAA does not seem to list his file yet (probably in series A1), so you'd need to contact the NAA directly.

Note: As the file could not even be listed yet, it is highly unlikely that it is digitized, so you might need to pay for this to be done (or visit Canberra?).

 

In case you don’t have got the following yet, this is his possible Copenhagen police emigration info (no ship name is given, maybe he left via Germany or maybe he worked as a sailor etc)

Navn:

Olsen, Jørgen P.

Alder:

20

Kontrakt nr.:

275600

Sidste oph.sogn:

Lillebrænde (Falster)

Sidste oph.sted:

Barup, Maribo

Bestemmelses by:

?

Skibsnavn:

Indirekte

IDkode:

I8284O1111

Stilling:

Arbejdsmand

Bestemmelsessted:

Australien

Forevisningsdato:

8/22/1883

Sidste oph. amt:

Maribo

Bestemmelses land:

Australien

Bestemmelses stat:

?

 

Sylvia

 

Comment by Sylvia on September 10, 2020 at 8:30

PS could this be family?:

Navn:

Olsen, Ole P.

Alder:

25

Kontrakt nr.:

275700

Sidste oph.sogn:

Torkilstrup (Falster)

Sidste oph.sted:

Taarup, Maribo

Bestemmelses by:

?

Skibsnavn:

Indirekte

IDkode:

I8284O1112

Stilling:

Sømand

Bestemmelsessted:

Australien

Forevisningsdato:

8/22/1883

Sidste oph. amt:

Maribo

Bestemmelses land:

Australien

Bestemmelses stat:

?

Comment by Sylvia on September 10, 2020 at 8:57

Found them!!! (thanks to Ole):

Jorgen and Ole “Ohlsen” arrived from Hamburg on 15 Nov 1883. The ship was called Etna ….

Jorgen: (last name) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSXD-NSXK-K?i=493

Ole is the first name on the next page …

Comment by Sylvia on September 10, 2020 at 9:10

Dad, mum and 2 sons in 1880 census:

https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid10346355

Comment by Sylvia on September 10, 2020 at 9:30
Comment by Sylvia on September 10, 2020 at 18:39

Update:

On 19 Nov 1983 the 2 brothers continue to Sydney first: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSMP-57QF-D?i=967

Comment by shirley ann peake on September 11, 2020 at 13:32

Hi   I am wondering how it is established the boys went to Sydney, from what I saw of that shipping list they had Melb next to their names although some had Sydney, so assume that some went to Sydney?

Comment by Sylvia on September 11, 2020 at 14:52

I’m not sure what you mean?

 

The first passenger list was an inward passenger list for arrivals into Victoria from foreign ports (i.e. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSXD-NSXK-K?i=493 )

The second was an outward passenger list from Victoria to interstate and overseas ports (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSMP-57QF-D?i=967)

 

So, the Etna arrives in Melbourne on 15 Nov 1883 and continues to Sydney on 19 Nov 1983 with seemingly abt 2/3 of the original passengers who had embarked in Hamburg.

As Jorgen and Ole are mentioned on that second list, they would have continued on to (at least) Sydney.

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