Researching the family history of my "Grandfathers Brother" Leonard Wallace Palfrey Born 1897. Left the UK in January 1924 in the company of a Miss Dorthy Chard. Born 1897. Both from  Malpas, Newport, Wales. London to Sydney on board the P&O SS Bendigo. Passenger ticket No 78 Chard. Passenger ticket No 79 Palfrey.To date, have been unable to trace any records in the NAA of Australia. Any members able to point me in the right direction, would be much appreciated. Regards Stuart.

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Comment by Sylvia on November 18, 2019 at 20:38

 

Leonard Wallce Palfrey b abt 1897 Malpas Newport, Monmouthshire, d 9 Dec 1976 NSW (died in hospital, retired catering officer, residence North Paramatta)

Memorial: Castlebrook Memorial Park, Rouse Hill, NSW (https://billiongraves.com/grave/Leonard-Wallace-Palfrey/18601776)

1924 immigration: https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage...

1962 retirement: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/220247834?searchTerm=Pal...

 

X#1 1931 Balmain South NSW (#5657/1931)

Elizabeth Josephine Holley b abt 1898 NSW d 23 May 1936 NSW (https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/27993132?searchTerm=Palfrey ; https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/27993382?searchTerm=palf...  )

 

X#2 1937 Parramatta NSW (#4100/1937)

Elsie May Pollard b 1907, d 6 Dec 1993 NSW       

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Children listed in Elsie’s death notice:

Harry

Joan

Edward

rgds Sylvia

Comment by Stuart Powell on November 19, 2019 at 7:44

Hi Sylvia, Many thanks for your quick reply.Bit of a boy was our Leonard.Looks like he traveled to Sydney with

Dorothy Gladys Chard, at the end of a shotgun.Still trying to trace her records.Regards Stuart. 

Comment by Elizabeth Allen on November 19, 2019 at 12:44

Stuart,  I found this on Ancestry which might lead somewhere

Record information.
Birth 1897 Newport, Wales
Marriage year city, New South Wales, Australia
Record information.
Father given name surname (1866-year)
Mother given name surname (1865-year)
Spouse Arthur William Murton (Born 1886)

Elizabeth

Comment by Elizabeth Allen on November 19, 2019 at 12:49

Stuart,  I can't find her first marriage but there is a possible 2nd marriage listed for Dorothy in NSW BDM records

Registration number
287/1943 
Groom's Family Name
THOMPSON
Groom's Given Name(s)
WILLIAM HENRY
Bride's Family Name(s)
MURTON
Bride's Given Name(s)
DOROTHY GLADYS
District
SYDNEY
Comment by Elizabeth Allen on November 19, 2019 at 13:05

Stuart,  This death is only  a 'possible'

NSW BDM Index

THOMPSON DOROTHY GLADYS

Registration number
41410/1971 
Father's Given Name(s)
FREDERICK
Mother's Given Name(s)
MARY ANN
District
GOSFORD
Comment by Elizabeth Allen on November 19, 2019 at 13:08

Stuart,  This appears to be her death notice in the RYERSON INDEX - age fits your Gladys (73) so pretty sure it is her

apologies for all the replies but unable to edit these posts so had to add extras I had found.........Elizabeth

THOMPSON Dorothy Gladys Death notice 12JAN1971 Death 73 late of Umina Sydney Morning Herald 13JAN1971
Comment by Elizabeth Allen on November 19, 2019 at 13:12

Stuart,  1901 UK census from Family Search - her parents match the above parents on her death in 1971

Dorothy G Chard

England and Wales Census, 1901
Name Dorothy G Chard
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place Newport, Gloucestershire, England, United Kingdom
County Monmouthshire
Civil Parish Newport
Ecclesiastical Parish All Saints Crindan
Sub-District Newport
Registration District Newport
Gender Female
Age 3
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated) 1898
Birthplace Newport, Monmouthshire
Schedule Type 73
Page Number 13
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Frederick Chard Head M 35 Cardiff, Glamorganshire
Mary A Chard Wife F 34 Bristol, Gloucestershire
Mabel A Chard Daughter F 7 Newport, Monmouthshire
Frederick S Chard Son M 6 Newport, Monmouthshire
Dorothy G Chard Daughter F 3 Newport, Monmouthshire
Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1901," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9Y3-SBM : 21 May 2019), Dorothy G Chard in household of Frederick Chard, Newport, Gloucestershire, England, United Kingdom; from "1901 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast(http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing Newport subdistrict, PRO RG 13, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.

Comment by Sylvia on November 19, 2019 at 13:28

The first marriage was back in Wales!

Dorothy Gladys Chard b bat 1897  Newport, Monmouthshire (d of Frederick and Mary Ann), d 12 Jan 1971 (Late of Umina, NSW), cremated

1924 Immigration: https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage...

 

X#1 reg Q#3 1917(!!!) distr Newport (Mon)

Arthur William Murton

 

X#2 1943 Sydney

William Henry Thompson b abt 1888, d 14 Jul 1964 (Late of Umina, NSW)

  

Discovered 1 child:

Stanley Arthur Douglas Murton b 5 Mar 1918 reg distr Newport (Mon), d Nov 2004 Newport (Wales)

Comment by Elizabeth Allen on November 19, 2019 at 13:43

Sylvia,    I saw that child from her first marriage on My Heritage but it didn't say where he was born

So maybe he was left back in Wales while Dorothy came out to Australia?  getting very interesting & complicated

Elizabeth

Comment by Stuart Powell on November 20, 2019 at 1:14

Hi folks, again many thanks for details supplied. We were not aware that Dorothy was a married woman with a child when the family ordered Leonard to leave the country in 1924.A skeleton was known to be lurking in the cupboard,but no known details. I have traced Dorthy Chard/ Arthur Murton  Marrage Record for 1917. A son Stanley Arthur Murton was Born 5 Mar 1918. He was abandoned in 1924 when she left the UK in the company of Leonard Palfrey. My Grandfather, Leonards brother. Did a good job of covering the scandal up. Regards Stuart.

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