I am trying to find my grand fathers WW1 & WW11 records my fathers WW1 records and my brothers Vietnam records.

My Grand fathers name was Edwin Arthur Leslie Ball, in WW1 he put his age up to enlist and in WW11 may have used another name but was detected and sent home (NOK Wife Nettie (Ettie))

My Fathers name was Charlie Edwin Ball (NOK Mother Nettie (Ettie))

My Brothers name was Kieth Charles Ball (NOK Mother Lucille Ball)

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Hi Larry,

Here is a link to Edwin Arthur Leslie BALL's entry on the WW2 Nominal Roll.

http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=A&veteranId=58...

His date of birth of 29 December 1899 appears to be correct as his birth was registered in 1900 at Collingwood. This was normally the case with children born in the last week or so of the year.  His parents were Edwin Arthur BALL and Elizabeth Jane PENROSE.

You will find his WW2 service record on this site (NAA) by searching for his full name:

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/using/search/index.aspx  (Begin your search)

You will then see "request a copy" on the right hand side - follow the links to purchase a copy of the record.

Here is a link to Charlie BALL's entry on the WW2 Nominal Roll:

http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=A&veteranId=47...

As above, you can search the NAA site and purchase a copy of his records (name just Charlie Ball).

I do not see a WW1 record for Edwin at the moment.  If he raised his age he may have also enlisted under a different name - this could be where the story comes from as his details in WW2 are correct.

Debra

Hi Larry,

Sorry, I am blind.  The two entries come up together when you search for Edwin Arthur Leslie BALL at http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/using/search/index.aspx  He used the name Leslie GAY in WW1. This record is digitised.

http://dhistory.org/archives/naa/items/4028583/

Debra

Hi Larry

I did a search of the database and found your grandfather’s WWI and WWII service records. In WWI he enlisted as Leslie GAY, with a next of kin Robert Gay.  You can see his service record at http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/AutoSearch.asp?O=I&Numbe...  – click on ‘View digital image’ to see a digital copy of his record.  The RecordSearch database entry for to his WWII service record is at http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/AutoSearch.asp?O=I&Numbe....  There currently isn’t a digital copy of this record.  You are able to purchase a copy by clicking on ‘Request copy’. You will need to follow the prompts through to our e-commerce system.     

I found reference to five Charles Balls (but no Charles Edwin Ball or Charlie Edwin Ball).  Based on the information you provided above, I think the most relevant one is:

Ball Charles : SERN DEPOT : POB Stratford-on-Avon England : POE Toowoomba QLD : NOK M Ball Ellen – you can view online at http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/AutoSearch.asp?O=I&Numbe...

Otherwise, one of the following may be his service record:

Ball Charles : SERN 12542 : POB Burton England : POE Melbourne VIC : NOK F Ball Thomas W -http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/AutoSearch.asp?O=I&Numbe...

Ball Charles : SERN DEPOT : POB Farnham England : POE Melbourne VIC : NOK W Ball Deborah Annie - http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/AutoSearch.asp?O=I&Numbe...

Ball Charles : SERN 3551 : POB Kiama NSW : POE Sydney NSW : NOK F Ball Stephen - http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/AutoSearch.asp?O=I&Numbe...

Ball Charles : SERN 5333 : POB Port Augusta SA : POE Charters Towers QLD : NOK S Stewart Edith - http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/AutoSearch.asp?O=I&Numbe...

Ball Edwin : SERN 2313 : POB Brisbane QLD : POE Brisbane NSW : NOK F Ball Charles - http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/AutoSearch.asp?O=I&Numbe...

Ball Edwin : SERN 3064 : POB Swansea Wales : POE Melbourne VIC : NOK M Ball Cecelia - http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/AutoSearch.asp?O=I&Numbe...

Regarding your brother’s Vietnam war service, you will need to request this record using our online form at http://reftracker.naa.gov.au/reft100.aspx?key=06PostWarDefRef

Regards

Tonia

(NAA staff)

Apologies Larry - the links into our database aren’t working correctly - the forum software cuts the link at a point where it is no longer readable by our database.

To find the database entries for the service records I listed:

  1.  Go to http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/using/search/index.aspx .
  2.  Click on ‘Begin your search’.  
  3.  Select the ‘Advanced search’ green tab and then select the ‘Items’ box.
  4.  For each record, enter the number I have provided in the square brackets at the end of the entry into the 'Item barcode’ field and click 'Search.

Gay Leslie [AKA Ball Edwin Arthur Leslie] : SERN 7484 : POB Collingwood VIC : POE Richmond VIC : NOK B Gay Robert [4028583]

BALL EDWIN ARTHUR LESLIE : Service Number - V145609 : Date of birth - 29 Dec 1899 : Place of birth - COLLINGWOOD VIC : Place of enlistment - ROYAL PARK VIC : Next of Kin - BALL NELLIE [6291934]

Ball Charles : SERN DEPOT : POB Stratford-on-Avon England : POE Toowoomba QLD : NOK M Ball Ellen [3047004]

Ball Charles : SERN 12542 : POB Burton England : POE Melbourne VIC : NOK F Ball Thomas W[3047013]

Ball Charles : SERN DEPOT : POB Farnham England : POE Melbourne VIC : NOK W Ball Deborah Annie [3047006]

Ball Charles : SERN 3551 : POB Kiama NSW : POE Sydney NSW : NOK F Ball Stephen [3047009]

Ball Charles : SERN 5333 : POB Port Augusta SA : POE Charters Towers QLD : NOK S Stewart Edith [3047010]

Ball Edwin : SERN 2313 : POB Brisbane QLD : POE Brisbane NSW : NOK F Ball Charles [3047044]

Ball Edwin : SERN 3064 : POB Swansea Wales : POE Melbourne VIC : NOK M Ball Cecelia [3047048]

Tonia

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