Hi,

I am trying to find information on my Gt Gt Uncles passage to Australia in the early 1900s but as Bell is such a common name I am having trouble!

They emigrated from the UK before the outbreak of WWI as they both served with the Australian army. James is the only brother to survive the war out of five and signed up in 1914 at the age of 27; his wife Alice lived in Surry Hills at 60 Arthur Street. Laurie signed up age 21 and was single, he was killed at Anzac Cove in 1915.

I am writing the story of the brothers and need this information to tie the story together. Any help would be appreciated!

Views: 40

Attachments:

Reply to this

Replies to this discussion

Jayne,

You’ve admitted yourself that they had a common surname, so I cannot understand why you didn’t give more background information for them?: e.g. approx birth date, birth location, last residence, full names etc.
Therefore I had to puzzle a fair bit first. I suppose that I can assume that this is their family, approx birth details and full names (especially as I can link the initials on the Haworth memorial to them: https://awfhs.org/war-memorial/haworth-st-michaels-church)

parents:
William BELL abt 1847 Grinton (Yorkshire North Riding), Farmer (1891), Masons Labourer (1911)
X reg Q#3 1874 Distr Reeth (North Riding of Yorkshire)
Elizabeth WAGGETT b abt 1851 Marrick (North Riding of Yorkshire) (she had 10 children, 9 are still alive in 1911)
-

children:
Joseph  James BELL b Marrick reg Q#1 1875 Distr Reeth; occ: Wool Sorter (1911)
Barbara  Ann BELL b Marrick reg Q#3 1876 Distr Reeth; occ: Woollen Piece Mender (1901), Worsted Coating Moulder (1911)
Mary Elizabeth BELL b reg Q#2 1878 Distr Reeth
Margaret Isabel BELL b Marrick reg Q#2 1880 Distr Reeth; occ: Wool Winder (1901)
Jane BELL b Marrick reg Q#2 1882 Distr Reeth; occ: Wool Spinner (1901)
John William BELL b Marrick reg Q#2 1884 Distr Reeth; occ: Wool Spinner (1901)
James Binks BELL b Marrick reg Q#2 1886 Distr Reeth; occ: Wool Spinner (1901), Wool Packer (1911)
Ada Dinah BELL b Marrick Q#3 1888 Distr Reeth
Herbert BELL b Marrick, Q#2 1890 Distr Reeth
Laurence/Lawrence George BELL b Marrick Q#1 1893 Distr Reeth, occ: Mechanics Labourer (1911)


James and Lawrence can be found in the 1911 census residing at 2. Thomas Street, Haworth Brow, West Riding of Yorkshire. ==> You’d mentioned that they’d left England in the 1900’s, but clearly they were still living in Haworth on 2 April 1911, so this had narrowed their departure to the period 1911-1914.

Finally I could find a good possibily in the outgoing UK outward passengerlists:
On 8 Dec 1911 James B BELL (“Tailor”) and Lawrence G BELL ("Grocer") leave London on the Omrah. Sydney is their final destination.
NB The Omrah arrived in Fremantle on 9 Jan 1912, so arrival in Sydney would have been mid to late January 1912.

rgds, Sylvia

P.S. of course James' marriage took place on 11 November 1911, so that would have narrowed things down even more ....

You’ve admitted yourself that they had a common surname, so I cannot understand why you didn’t give more background information for them?: e.g. approx birth date, birth location, last residence, full names etc.

Wow! I know all of that thank you, there was no need whatsoever to chastise me in your reply that's why I only needed to know when they left the UK for Australia. I only have a basic account on Ancestry.co.uk so can't access anything except British information for the brothers. I had looked at passenger lists from 1905 up until 1914, but there were several James Bell's and no Lawrence/Laurie at all. I did find Alice (James' wife) travelling alone in 1912 and wondered if the men went ahead to get work and a house etc. James married Alice November 11th 1911 in Haworth, so left pretty quickly after that! I'm also very new to all this searching for family business.

James and Lawrence can be found in the 1911 census residing at 2. Thomas Street, Haworth Brow, West Riding of Yorkshire. ==> You’d mentioned that they’d left England in the 1900’s, but clearly they were still living in Haworth on 2 April 1911, so this had narrowed their departure to the period 1911-1914.

This is why I mentioned they emigrated before the outbreak of WWI and 1911 is early 1900s!

Finally I could find a good possibily in the outgoing UK outward passengerlists:
On 8 Dec 1911 James B BELL (“Tailor”) and Lawrence G BELL ("Grocer") leave London on the Omrah. Sydney is their final destination.
NB The Omrah arrived in Fremantle on 9 Jan 1912, so arrival in Sydney would have been mid to late January 1912.

Finally, thank you so much for this information. I feel like a chastised child though! I thought I had given what information I needed to, I wasn't expecting anyone to do the research for me, just a pointer in the right direction!

I did the research for myself because there wasn't enough background data ....

RSS

© 2021   Created by National Archives of Australia.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an issue  |  Terms of Service