Hello,

I have been tracing my family tree. I have traced it back to Catherine Kingelty from Ireland, Catherine died on the 2/11/1887 in NSW. She had two sons - my ancestor James born 1844 in Ireland and his brother Jeremiah born 1843 in Ireland according to documents. I know Catherine and her two sons were in NSW in 1878 when James married Mary Taper. 

How would I find out when they came to Australia?

thanks

Penny

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Could the following be a possibility for James as I noticed that the family lived in Shoalhaven?

 Via the “TIPPERARY EMIGRANT INDEX : 1828 to 1866”:

Surname/First-----------Year---Age------Native Place-----Parents-names & location Relations in the Colony--Ship of Arrival & other details

KENNULTY James – 1864 – 23 - Ballyvaughan - James / Catherine – F dead; M at B. - Uncle = Pat       WALSH at Shoalhaven - Ship = Sirocco 2

(source: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maddenps/TIPPEM5.htm )

 

At first I could not find him via the NSW archives, but then discovered this other spelling:

Surname - Firstname - Age - Ship - Year - Arriving - Remarks - Copy

KINNALTY - James - 23 - Sirocco (2) - 1864 - Sydney -  - Reel 2139, [4/4798]; Reel 2482, [4/4988] -

And with this the image: http://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.aspx?Page=NRS5316/4_47...

 

 

And could this be the rest of the family (There’s that name Walsh again!) ?

Surname - Firstname - Age - Ship - Year - Arriving - Remarks - Copy

WALSH - Catherine - 50 - Devonport - 1868 - Sydney - and family - Reel 2140, [4/4789]; Reel 2486, [4/4993]

KINGALTY - Ellen - 25 - Devonport - 1868 - Sydney - or WALSH - Reel 2140, [4/4789]; Reel 2486, [4/4993]

KINGALTY - Jeremiah - 21 - Devonport - 1868 - Sydney - or WALSH - Reel 2140, [4/4789]; Reel 2486, [4/4993]

Images:

http://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.aspx?Page=NRS5316/4_47...

http://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.aspx?Page=NRS5316/4_47...

 

Sylvia

Thankyou so much Sylvia. Yes that is them! Catherines maiden name was Walsh. I really appreciate you finding this for me. I didn't come across any of that when I looked. Thankyou!

Do you happen to know of any groups or organisations that help trace Irish ancestory? I have been looking online but haven't found anything. I would love to know where in Ireland they came from.

regards

Penny

I suppose that you have looked at e.g. https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ .Unfortunately it seems that there are no online indexes yet for the early church records from the area where the Kingaltys come from.

There are online images, but first you’ll need to know their religion and the parish(es) where the events occurred. I’ve had a bit of browse on a catholic site http://registers.nli.ie/ (parishes: e.g Bansha, Clonbulloge …), but haven’t been able to find any events for this family yet. 

 

A few Kingaltys are mentioned on the 1851 Griffith's Valuation. They were all from the same region in Tipperary (and close to Bansha):

Occupier Surname  - Occupier Forename  - County  - Parish  

KINGALTY  - CATHERINE  - TIPPERARY, SOUTH RIDING  - TEMPLENEIRY

KINGALTY  - ELEANOR  - TIPPERARY, SOUTH RIDING  - CLONBEG

KINGALTY  - JULIA  - TIPPERARY, SOUTH RIDING  - CLONBEG

KINGALTY  - CATHERINE  - TIPPERARY, SOUTH RIDING  - CLONBULLOGUE

KINGALTY  - JEREMIAH  - TIPPERARY, SOUTH RIDING  - TEMPLENEIRY

For more details: http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=d...=

Note: As no James is mentioned, he might have died before 1851 (Note: I assume that son James died in 1907. His death index mentions that his father was a James as well .. of course this could be wrong)

 

I found a James who was sentenced to hard labour in 1836. If this is the correct person, he could have married Catherine after his release in 1838.

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=_v1bAAAAQAAJ&printsec=fron...

 

Penny,   There are two reels of information on this family - the one that is online (2140)  and reel 2486 which will very likely have more information that may help

These microfilm reels are available in the State Library in Sydney and some public libraries that have family history sections also have copies

If you are unable to access them I could check reel 2486 for you if needed

Elizabeth

Thankyou very much Elizabeth. I will ask our local library and see if they have access to them.  What specifically do I ask for? Just Reel 2140 and 2486? thankyou.

Penny,   The reel 2140 is online & the link was listed above so you can view it

Just ask for the microfilm reel no. 2486 which is part of the Assisted Immigrants to NSW Collection

My Irish ancestors also came from Tipperary but it was a bit earlier and I found a wealth of extra info on the 2nd microfilm reel for their immigration - I hope you can be as lucky as I was

Elizabeth

Thankyou. I didn't realise the reel you were referring to was the one in the message from Sylvia sorry. Yes I have looked through that one. I will check with my library tomorrow to see if they have no.2486. Thankyou.

How about a different spelling?

Bansha and Kilmoyler; County of Tipperary; Diocese of Cashel and Emly

Marriage 10 Feb 1835

Jas. Quinilty X Cath Walsh

http://registers.nli.ie/pages/vtls000632651_094

 

 

Bansha and Kilmoyler; County of Tipperary; Diocese of Cashel and Emly.

Baptism 15 August 1842

Mary of Jas. Quinilty and Cath Walsh

http://registers.nli.ie/pages/vtls000632650_101

 

Here a few more baptisms:

1838: James

http://registers.nli.ie/pages/vtls000632650_070

 

1840: Jeremiah

http://registers.nli.ie/pages/vtls000632650_087

 

(I'll leave the rest for you to find)

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